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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:11 pm
Thanks Ant, I appreciate the criticism. Smile And I actually do agree that aside from not being completely connected, I do like the original's looks better too. It's like comparing an original Lamborghini Countach to a suped up Countach with all these flashy things added to it. The original is a classic, and looks better left alone....

Well I tried. Thanks for the bonus points. Razz
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PSS Wolf, Mk. III--My Refit for the 5th Anniversary

on Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:25 pm
HAPPY FIFTH PHOENIX COMMAND GROUP ANNIVERSARY, EVERYONE!!!

Boy, it’s hard to believe that, just a little less than five years ago, I first discovered the work of Johnnyred, Legotrain, Spacedude, and others on the LUCL, and thought to myself, “Man, I want to be like THEM!” I remember my excitement when I first joined, and how many hours I spent laboring over LDD starship models, trying to be like the Council Members.

Shortly after I joined the PCG, I met one of my best friends on the Internet: Dino272727. As far as I can remember, we hit it off almost immediately, both being Christians and both being roughly the same age. Our careers excelled side by side for many months, and it was always a pleasure to get on the Lab and leave comments on Dino’s gifted ships.

One of his very first works was the U.S.S. Wolf, which was first uploaded to the LUCL by Sloopofwar, one of the PCG’s earliest members. This ship was an excellent entry ship for Dino, and it proved to be the first of many of his orthodox-styled ships. Only once did he refit it…totaling two times that the Wolf announced its presence in the PCG Universe.

Well, although the Wolf may not be quite as well-renowned as Dino’s St. George, or well-practiced as his York, I have refitted it for the PCG Anniversary. I did so partly because of laziness, partly because of the limited time I had to work with, but also partly because I could not imagine improving on so many of Dino’s orthodox starships, being almost completely oblivious to traditional Star Trek ships as I am. The Wolf, however, though orthodox in appearance, was not of a specific class, and thus became an excellent ship to refit. When you add to this the fact that the Wolf, as far as I know, was his first official PCG ship, well, can you get anymore sentimental than that?

Dino, I hope you enjoy this refit. I know it’s not the biggest, grandest refit released during this 5th Anniversary, but I trust you will like it nonetheless. Thanks for being a brother in Christ and a true friend to me for all these years! Someday I hope to meet you here on this earth, but if not, I look forward to seeing you in Heaven someday, where, perhaps, we can build real starships to explore God’s universe. Wink


ON TO THE PICS, GENERAL INFORMATION, AND STATS!!!

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.LXF FILE: https://www.dropbox.com/s/y42gacntmhabdnp/PCS%20Wolf%2C%20Mk.%20III.lxf

P.S.S. [Phoenix Star Ship] Wolf

Despite its small size, Captain Dino’s P.S.S. Wolf is a ship to be reckoned with in the dark, cold expanse of space. It serves well as a military and exploratory vessel, being well-armed and well-equipped for its size. Its maneuverability, shielding, and armor make it a foe hard to handicap.

Statistics:
Length— 295 meters
Width— 140 meters
Height— 75 meters
Shielding— 1 Omega Class Frigate Generator
Armor— 1 inch albative, ½ inch titanium alloy
Weaponry— 4x phaser turrets, 2x acoustic torpedo tubes, 4x phaser cannons
Maximum Warp Speed— 9.95
Maximum Impulse Speed— 3.50
Maximum Crew Capacity— 250
Maximum Passenger Capacity— 50
Total Capacity— 300


Again, Dino, I hope you like it. If you have problems opening the .lxf file, please let me know. My computer is not letting me open it from my Dropbox account...

HONOR. VALOR. COOKIES!!!!

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:23 am
It is beautiful, Kommandant. Very Happy
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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:41 am
Dang, Scare. That's one fine-looking ship! Very Happy
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Council of the Phoenix

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:18 am
Here's my project for the fifth anniversary!  A refit of (Almost all of) Council of the Phoenix’ ships!

First off, let me say that I wasn’t able to get two of them done.  Dino272727’s Indomitable being one of them.  My computer was unable to process his 3k+ starship while building another 3k+ ship alongside of it.  Razz  I also was unable to build Csf’s ship (Most of you didn’t even know that he was a Council Member.  Razz)  This was because he never created any ships.  Only ground forces, therefore I would have had to have made an entirely new ship for him.  Don’t worry though, I will still be refitting the Indomitable and making Csf a starship, they just haven’t been completed in time for the fifth anniversary.  And without further ado, the J-red Refits of the Council of the Phoenix Flagships!

I will not be including more than two images for each ship or individual .lxfs here, however, I shall be creating individual posts for each ship with multiple images and the .lxfs for each.  However, I have included a group .lxf of the entire fleet at the end of this post.

And now, before reading on, some appropriate music.  
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PCS Texas  (This isn’t really a refit… Razz  Though I have redone the weapon systems in metallic colors)
Captain: Johnnyred, Founder of the PCG
Fleet: Texas Rangers
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Enterprise
Captain: Ianrobert732, Founding Member of the PCG
Fleet: Diamonds in the Rough
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: Ianrobert Research and Development Division

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PCS Independence
Captain: Legotrain587, Founding Member of the PCG
Fleet: Nova Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: Refitting Yards

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PCS Stingray III
Captain: SloopofWar
Fleet: Dragon Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: War Sim

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PCS Ava’Kuda Z
Captain: SirSquid
Fleet: Skull Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Fawkes
Captain: Flipz
Fleet: Helios Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: Archival Division

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PCS Sovereign
Captain: Raven 01 (Farplanet), Star Quest Marine Corps Commandant
Fleet: N/A
Division: Starquest Marine Corps
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Maybach
Captain: Jared50000
Fleet: Delta Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Triumphant
Captain: Spacedude1234567
Fleet: Unknown
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Swallowtail
Captain: Jamman101, Star Lancers Air Superiority Unit Commander
Fleet: Storm Fleet
Division: Star Lancers Air Superiority Unit
Secondary Division: Space Defense Fleet

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PCS Liberty
Captain: Scarecrow535
Fleet: Revolution Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

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PCS Indomitable
Captain: Dino272727
Fleet: Iron Fleet
Division: Space Defense Fleet
Sub-Division: N/A

PICS COMING SOON!

PCS (COMING SOON!)
Captain: Csfschulz010296, Star Quest Marine Corps Commandant
Fleet: N/A
Division: Star Quest Marine Corps
Sub-Division: 51st Division

~ .lxf File ~
http://www.mediafire.com/download/lndanejzfk9pev8/Council+Fleet.lxf


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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:10 am
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhanqbvft5r93u3/Iechonias%20II%20%28Battleship%29.lxf

Some fitting music for such an occasion:

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In honor of our five glorious years together, I'd like to bring you the refit of a ship very important to me. The ISS Iechonias was one of the first PCG ships I saw on the Lab, made by our very own Scarecrow535. Scare was the first PCG-er to find me on the edge of the Lab as I went about making a small series of UHRF vs. Blacktron sets. This was back in '09, the heyday of the PCG, I suppose. His singular, kind comment on one of my creations would have an infinite number of consequences, all positive, that make me who I am and where I am today. Without that single comment, one with less than 50 characters, I don't know what would have ever happened.

As such, I'd like to honor the vessel that pulled me into the mighty organization. With a fresh coat of paint, updated offensive capabilities, and a new extension in the back, the new PCG Iechionas II/B secures its place among the stars. This battleship builds off of the already impressive Iechonias II design by adding massive fusion reactors and supercharged IPC-3a cannons to the vessel, in addition to improved shields and anti-missile defenses (point-defense), making the II/B the perfect flagship for mid-large task forces.

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I realize that this refit may not be the most drastic or most impressive, but, to be honest, I could hardly find anything wrong with this particular model, no matter how I looked at it. Disturbing such a memorable piece just seemed heretical to me. Razz

Let us thank the Lord for what an amazing experience he has bestowed upon us, and may He continue to bless us as we journey into the unknown of the future. Here's to another five years, and may the Phoenix's light burn eternal!


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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:30 am
Good day, everyone, and happy 5th PCG-verse anniversary!

First off, I'd like to say a big thank you to everyone who has been a part of out little corner of the Internet. Since I joined the PCG-verse in April 2011, I've had nothing but support from all involved, and I'm grateful. I'm very glad that I've had the opportunity to make such friends as all of you, and I'm very proud of how far you have helped me come as a builder. I normally don't like to get sappy, but in this case it's well-warranted. Thank you! Razz

So, without further ado, I'd like to present my two refits for your enjoyment. First up, it's... wait for it... the Talmidon!!! Very Happy

Talmidon, MK N-I:
Background image: Occasus by GTGraphics

I originally decided to refit the Talmidon because of how unique the ship is. Since it was first posted, it has become one of my favorite ships in the PCG-verse.

Original Talmidon:

Pic 1:

In doing this refit, I've tried to maintain the iconic skinniness we all know and love ( Very Happy ) while at the same time putting my own personal touch on it. As a result, I have made almost no structural changes at all, the exception to this being the widened neck between the main saucer and the nacelle pylons.

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Most of my changes have been cosmetic styling on the wings and saucer. I like to build rings, so I added the semi-circles on the outside of the wings for some extra flair. On the saucer, I built two new random high-powered long range fixed-position turbolasers, just 'cause. Razz I also built a new type of high-energy pulse cannon on the underside of each wing.

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Another major change are the warp nacelles. I built brand new ones to be used exclusively on this ship. I kept the two-tone gray colors of the original nacelles, but made them more rounded and sci-fi--looking. Very Happy Two signature Narkova Drive Yards plasma engines have been attached to the underside of each nacelle to boost sublight travel speed.

Pic 6:

I know that this isn't the most spectacular refit ever done, and's probably not much compared to Talmid's own refits of this ship, but I'm still proud of my work. It came out pretty much just how I envisioned it. I'll get an .lxf up on the LEGO gallery shortly, along with the .lxf for my other refit (to be posted in the morning.)

Edit: I added a pic of what the Talmidon looked like before I messed with it. Very Happy

Now to present my other refit, Soccergirl's PCS Kitty Hawk!

PCS Kitty Hawk, MK N-I:

Original Kitty Hawk:

I haven't done much to the Kitty Hawk in my refit of it, because I liked it the way it was to begin with. Very Happy I started out by taking care of a few floating bricks and making sure everything was solid, then I removed the side-mounted fins and warp nacelles and  replaced them with four mini fins.

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I added a small hangar in the front split on the saucer to give it a little more pizzaz. The new warp nacelles are recolored versions of nacelles I built for a ship that I never got around to posting. As on the Talmidon, I kept the color scheme pretty much the same as the original.

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In the end, I'm quite proud of how the ship turned out. I'll put the .lxf files for both ships up for moderation on the LEGO gallery now, so they should be available by tomorrow.

Enjoy! Very Happy


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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:51 am

Hello, everyone! I’ve technically already greeted everyone, so let’s dig right into the ships, shall we?

JK; apparently, everyone has decided to tell a little story of how they joined first, so I might as well tell mine… except mine’s really boring, since I don’t really remember anything until well after I joined. Razz I do remember that I started building ships on LDD before I joined, and by the time I did join, I already had a small fleet. I remember building my first ship; for some reason, I thought everyone has these things built in minifig scale, and started to build every single hallway and room of the original Enterprise. ;P Needless to say, I soon gave up, only having completed a small section of two hallways. I closed this off and called the resulting T-bone box the USS Titon; I still haven’t decided what to do with it now. I also remember (or seem to remember) the first comments on my stuff were by Soccergirl and Dino, so huge Kudos to them (and ten points Razz).


For my refits, I decided to do one ship from each of the Three Musketeers. I must admit, I’m not too proud of how they turned out; I’ll post more info in the Space Defense Fleet Forums later.


Refit #1- Dino’s USS Ford

The USS Ford was the PCG’s first repair vessel; seeing how I wanted to make some more utility vessels (including repair ships), and seeing how simple the general design of the Ford was, I thought I might give it a go.

Of all my refits, I feel the Ford came out the best; the saucer was decent (albeit perhaps too thin), as was the warp nacelles (Some SNOT work there; again, decent), but the engineering hull came out kinda badly IMO.


Pictures:
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.lxf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r9jt115m5mb2q5s/PCG%20Ford%20%28CFR%29.lxf

Origonal: http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=afb16c22-aa49-43d2-9f9a-0e973aa626cb&memberId=305279e2-d403-4707-9abd-04416fb877c5


Stats:

-Armaments: 11 phaser banks

-Shielding: 17 shielding generators, equally distributed around the hull; standard navigational shielding

-Dimensions: 575 meters long; 285 meters long; 124 meters high

-Armor: Average .8 inches ablative, up to 1.2 in key areas

-Impulse: 2 standard impulse engines, one large impulse engine; max impulse speed: warp .976

-Warp: 2 Ford-type nacelles; MCW: 5.4; MEW: 8.7

-Crew: 35 officers, 412 crew, 45 marines, 7 pilots

-Strike Craft: 5 Valkyrie shuttles

-Classification: PUR

-Sensors: Short ranged, about 7,500 kilometers ranged; tachyon pulse scan



Refit #2- Scare’s ISS Trinity

The Trinity was chosen out of all of scare’s other ships on the basis that it was the first one I clicked on. Razz JK (I don’t remember my selection process at all, actually).

Well, turns out making a refit of the ship was more difficult than I imagined; this is my personal least favorite of my three refits. I mean, it’s not terrible, but it isn’t great either. The main issue was the “saucer”; the two sides were simply too thin.


Pictures:
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.lxf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/g7gjflypmykdk0i/PCG%20Trinity%20CFR.lxf

Origional: http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=c731d967-8496-4689-b3b8-a3302c6ce09a&memberId=8d91eece-6634-4090-9ed3-2a4fda09a71d


Stats:

-Armaments: 26 phaser banks, 4 MPC*s, 14 phaser arrays, 4 phaser cannons, 2 railguns, 6 torpedo tubes (fore), 3 torpedo tubes (aft), 4 torpedo banks

-Shielding: 39 shield generators; standard navigational shielding

-Dimensions: 610 meters long, 305 meters wide, 97 meters tall

-Armor: Average, 1.7 inches ablative, up to 3.4 inches in key areas; .3 inches neutronium, throughout (under)

-Impulse: 3 standard impulse engines, max impulse speed warp .7

-Warp: 2 Lightning-type nacelles; MCW: 8.3, MEW: 9.0

-Crew: 47 officers, 430 crew, 51 marines, 90 pilots

-Strike Craft: 4 Valkyrie shuttles, 1 Hercules shuttle, 1 squadron Ambition Interceptors, 1 squadron Battleaxe fighters, 1 squadron Eagle fighter-bombers.

-Classification: PCC

-Sensors: Standard range, 600,000 kilometers; TPS


Refit #3- Gandalf’s USS Discovery

As stated, the Trinity was my least favorite refit; the Discovery is a close second. One of Gandalf’s oldest ships, the Discovery actually is fairly large, and I thus figured it would be as good a ship as any to remake.

….uuuurrrrgggghhhh…

It’s not so much that the design is tough as it is that I botched it. Razz It just looks so….plain… the side pylons are too long, and the bottom ridge is too thin in proportion to how it sticks out. I just don’t like that ship. =/ I would fix it, but i didn’t really realize the faults until pretty much yesterday. Razz


Pictures:
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.lxf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j27z7xhj26j04ya/PCG%20Discovery%20CFR.lxf (Due to an unfortunate accident, this one doesn’t have a side-by-side comparison).

Origional: http://universe.lego.com/en-us/community/creationlab/displaycreation.aspx?id=3d29d4bf-671e-4616-b12c-38fc89b9d6d3&memberId=b6c885df-9bfe-44f4-9dea-8bca75af1740


Stats:

-Armaments: 20 phaser banks, 9 MPC*s, 62 phaser arrays, 18 torpedo tubes (fore), 6 torpedo tubes (aft), 6 torpedo tubes (sides), 6 phaser strips, 4 railguns, 1 torpedo bank, 1 isokinetic cannon

-Shielding: 78 shielding generators, standard nav shielding

-Dimensions: 1230 meters long, 760 meters long, 155 meters tall

-Armor: Average 1.7 inches ablative, up to 2.98 inches in key areas; .6 inches neutronium armor throughout (under), .8 inches on bridge, warp core

-Impulse: 2 standard impulse engines, 1 hyperpulse engine; max impulse: warp .7

-Warp: 2 Sorcerer-type nacelles; MCW: 6.87476; MEW: 8.6

-Crew: 112 officers, 864 crew, 75 marines, 168 pilots

-Strike Craft: 6 Valkyrie shuttles, 2 Hercules heavy shuttles, 3 squadrons Ambition interceptors, 2 squadron Eagle fighter-bombers, 1 squadron Battleaxe fighters

-Classification: PCD

-Sensors: Standard range, 600,000 kilometers; TPS


Also, be sure to check out my PCG .zip I’ll be uploading at my fleet database today, which will feature everything PCG-related I’ve made (or just have Razz).


Happy Anniversary!


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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:57 pm
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"The Star Trek starship U.S.S. Iowa is the lead ship in the Iowa class Battleships. It is armed with type 11 phaser arrays, multiple photon torpedo launchers and a single quantum torpedo launcher mounted on the bow. It is also armed with experimental quantum phasers, that were made to counter the Borg threat, which fire many beams of different modulations, so they can not adapt. They are mounted on the bottom of the secondary hull. It has a thin layer of ablative armor allowing it to stay in a fight longer. It is equipped with new warp nacelles which allow it to travel at a top speed of warp 9.71. All in all this is a powerful ship, it falls between the Galaxy class and the new Sovereign class. It is named for the Iowa class Battleships used in World War 2. What do you think?" - Legotrain587





Peace.




Peace is lie.




War is reality.




"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
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"If you seek peace, prepare for war"




    "For too long the Federation has slept, oblivious of the dangerous that are all around it. Although they are attacked, they do little, or nothing at all. They build science ships when they need warships.
    The Admiralty has slumbered for too many decades.
    The shall be rudely awakened. Forced to see the truth that they are vulnerable, and that they must fight if their ideals of "liberty" and "justice" are to survive. The Borg and the Dominion will teach them that. Though it will cost them many hundreds of ships, and far worse, hundreds of thousands of lives to realize how utterly they have failed in their most basic duty." - (just written) Imperial Romulon history lesson on the Federation.


    The year is 2365. The Federation has made first contact with the Borg. And found itself utterly unprepared. The ~15 year old Galaxy class Explorer makes for a poor warship against such an immensely dangerous foe. The Defiant class is put into production, but a larger warship is still needed. The Sovereign class is still in the design phase as the new technologies intended for that class are not yet ready. One Admiral manages to acquire the funds for an extremely limited run of massive combat vessels, instead of only one test-bed. This new class of ship was originally intended to serve only as a test-bed for many of the technologies to be implemented on the much smaller Sovereign class. Such a massive space-frame is needed as the Sovereign's combat related systems are starbase grade, and thus an immense hull is needed to house the systems. The design is rushed, and is released in 2367.5, fully two and a half years before the Sovereign class, with mixed results. The Iowa class Heavy Deterrent Cruiser. (Battleship) is born, the largest starship ever built by the Federation; a title it will hold for decades.
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Name: U.S.S. Iowa
Registry: NX-7359

Original release date: April, 19, 2009 (within days of my Bday)
Original designer: Legotrain587 (PCG 5th Anniversary)

Redesign release date: July, 25th, 2014
Redesign designer: Dino27


Dimensions:
    Length: 840 meters
    Beam: 288 meters
    Draft: 132 meters
    Decks: 38
    Mass: 5,456,000 metric tons

Piece count: 1138 (A nod to those SW fans among us)

Crew: 900

Speed:
  Impulse:
    .47 c cruise
    .75 c max.
  Warp:
    warp 8.53 normal cruise
    warp 9.42 maximum cruise
    warp 9.64 emergency cruise (36 hours)
    warp 9.71 maximum emergency cruise (12 hours)

Armament:
    10 type X+ phaser arrays (later reclassified as type XI)
    1 quantum phaser array (ventral)
    4 photon torpedo launchers (2 fore, 2 aft) with 300 rounds
    1 rapid fire quantum torpedo turret (fore, ventral) with 150 rounds

Defenses:
    High capacity, auto-modulated shielding system (4,640,000 TeraJoule capacity)
    Secondary, inner layer shielding system (460,000 TeraJoule capacity)
    Duranium/Tritanium double hull plus 8 cm Ablative hull armor
    High level structural integrity field

Embarked craft:
    12 shuttlepods
    8 personal shuttles
    6 medium shuttles
    6 heavy shuttles
    4 cargo shuttles
    2 runabouts
    3 work bees


    The Iowa class received mixed reviews. The engineers who had to build and maintain her, and her designers, found her to be a nightmare. They had to create a massive ship, to exacting requirements, in an extremely short amount of time. Capital ships usually took decades to design and perfect. The Iowa was finished from conception to testing in just over two years; an insanely short time period. This is attributed to a lot of the design elements having already been used in the Galaxy class, or being researched for the Sovereign.
    The speed of the build, the amount of new tech, and the sheer size of the ship, cost a fortune in Latinum. The ship was a dilithium, antimatter, and torpedo guzzler, and as such logistics officers despised it.
    The Iowa's captain liked the ship for its increased sublight speed and maneuverability, as well as it's combat prowess compared to the Galaxy class. It was still no starfighter, but it put the even more cumbersome Galaxy class to shame with its somewhat improved turn rate.
    The crew liked the ship, although it took a lot of getting used to after the comfort of the Galaxy class. No families here. No children. Just combatants. Although it was still much more of a science ship than the Sovereign class that would replace it, and certainly much more so than the minuscule Defiant class.

    The Iowa is armed with 10 type X+ (later renamed tpye XI) these arrays are only nominally more powerful than the type X arrays of the Galaxy class. They do boast far better cooling systems, a significantly larger power reserve, increased accuracy, and marginally increased range.
    The design team tried to fit the type XII arrays intended for the Sovereign, but even with so much available space, it was impossible with the current technology. A better warp-core was needed, but time was of the essence.

    The Iowa class was the first, and for decades, only, ship to implement quantum phaser technology. Quantum phasers fire at multiple modulations, to prevent Borg adaptation. The design is extremely expensive, and inefficient. It is less accurate, capable of fewer shots, slower follow up shots, and less range than type X arrays. It is extremely effective against Borg, at the expense of being less effective against the vast majority of enemies. Future technological advancements will allow improvement to this system.

    The Iowa is the first Starfleet ship to be outfitted with Ablative hull armor, although less than later designs. This is essentially as protective as a lower capacity shielding system.

    The research team had hoped that the Iowa would be the first ship to carry regenerative shielding systems, but so much power was required, that an entirely new warp-core had to be designed to do so on the Sovereign class. And with the primary goal of the Iowa class to reach the front lines as soon as possible, proper regenerative shielding was scraped for a pseudo regenerative/dual layer system.
    The Iowa is equipped with a secondary, inner shielding grid. Although it is less powerful than the primary shielding systems of cruiser sized craft, it added to serve two purposes.
    1: Allow a non facing shield (EG, aft shields) to be dropped in order to recharge far more quickly, but still have some shielding in place against a possible attack. This tactic is extremely risky as it leaves a section of the ship almost entirely exposed to enemy fire, since even a single hit can take down the inner shield, leaving the Iowa vulnerable to further attack.
    2: Catch the small percentage of fire that bleeds through the outer shield layer.
    This system is neither truly dual shield layers, nor regenerative shielding, but it is less expensive in power and Latinum than either. But it was still far less efficient, and more expensive, than than a single layer shielding system.
    Actual use of this unique shield design had some interesting results. The Iowa's total shield capacity was 10% lower than if it simply used a single layered shielding system, but it was able to take FAR less damage through the other 90% of its shields. This proved to be ideal for skirmishes, or for single cruiser to single cruiser battles as the ship came out in better shape. However, it was undesirable in large scale, long term, fleet battles in which the more shots you could survive, the better. As such, the design was ultimately replaced by true regenerative shielding in the Sovereign class.

    The Iowa suffered from other problems as well. It's warp core, although very powerful for the time, proved to be inadequate for the ship's insatiable demands for power. This meant that the Iowa class lacked the combat endurance of other, smaller ships.
    It's structural integrity field was also not powerful enough to handle the new, larger impulse engines, so it's expected hull-life is reduced, and it must operate at lower sublight speeds than possible.
    Although it is capable of higher a sustained warp cruising speed, it's maximum warp speed is slower than the Galaxy class, and the entire system is much less efficient.
    The Iowa's computer systems had assorted bugs that took years to fully straighten out.

    With so many setbacks to the intended design, Starfleet swept the the Iowa class under the rug; even though they still found it quite useful, even in its limited numbers, during the Dominion War. But it would never be considered for mass production, and certainly not to be christened Enterprise E.

    Even with numerous design flaws, the Iowa class was still a ship to reckoned with.              
 
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The old and the new. Side by side.



Spoiler:

I used Legotrain's Nebula class ship (I want to say that someone else made it first.. I don't know, I'm tired) as a size comparison. Granted, I build at a slightly smaller scale than the Perfect Grade, so this isn't in that scale. And my Galaxy and Nebula are slightly too small compared to my other ships, so the Iowa IS to scale with most of my ships.  


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Legotrain said that he wanted the Iowa to come between the Galaxy class, and the Sovereign class. So I tried to make a few modifications to show the evolution that happened in the 20 years between the Galaxy and Sovereign classes. However, I tried to keep it overall very much the same as the original design, and there are some things I would've designed TOTALLY differently had it been an original design. But, ah well. I still like it very much.

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Showing off the Iowa next to the Indomitable, or perhaps vice-versa. At this angle, the size difference is deceptively small. (The Indom is FAR larger.)


Yes, this is a Federation ship from nearly 300 years before the PCG was even founded, but it's a classic LT design, and yes, it SHOULD be getting a PCG refit in the near future... must... motivate... myself. (Unless LT says otherwise, the PCG acquired the Iowa a long time ago, this is just pics/info for the original Starfleet ship.)


Fun fact: Although Legotrain named the Iowa class after the battleships of the same name from WWII, Iowa was actually James. T. Kirk's home-state, so it is a doubly fitting name for a ST ship.


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Talmid:
    Empress refit: I like it. It looks Federation-y. I still much prefer the original.




Scare:
    Wolf refit: I LOVE IT! And you were worried that I didn't like it! I ADORE this ship! GREAT job! It's so sleek, so elegant, and yet deadly and utilitarian. You have captured the feel of Starfleet vessels better in this one ship than all your other works combined... I am quite proud of you, and the Data quote rocks!




Johnnyred:
    Texas refit: Like you said, it's pretty much the same. I loved it before, I love it now. Nice job. You and I both keep old, small, under-powered ships for personal use. (I keep the York as my personal ship, although the Indomitable is my official flagship)

    Enterprise refit: GREAT job! I could just stare at it and drool...after I post this... I think I will do just that. Razz  Beautiful ship! I LOVE it! Way to bring a Constitution class(?) into the 24-26th century. I LOVE IT!!! I like it more than the Galaxy class.... VERY good!

    Independence refit: Very nice. I think I like the original more, but don't take it too hard. One of LT's best against a very good ship of yours is a tough call. Very good job, but it just doesn't FEEL like the Independence to me, at this angle... I need an LXF... BTW, you have a picture instead of an LXF link...  Crying or Very sad 

    Stingray refit: beautiful work J-red! You REALLY smoothed it out... I LOVE the refitted version. Well done!

    Ava'Kuda Z refit: Very good. Not much more to say, it's too tiny to have much detail, so you did a good job on it with what you had to work with. It's a good looking, smooth design. Well done.

    Fawkes: I like your refit, it's VERY cool. However, I don't think it was what Flipz was aiming for when he built the Fawkes. I built this redesign of the Fawkes, and Flipz replied "YES!! Now THIS is what I always meant the Fawkes to look like. This is a truly awesome ship." Maybe your version is a refitted and repaired version? I LOVE your ship, I just question how close to Flipz's vision of the Fawkes it comes. Man that is a cool an unorthdox ship... that looks totally Starfleet! I LOVE it whether it is accurate or not! Very Happy WELL done! It's so beautiful! And different... Very Happy I really love it.

    Sovereign refit: VERY nice! You are making me grow numb to awesome ships here... great job! I LOVE the mix of styles you've used with all our refits! Very Happy

    Maybach refit: THAT IS SO EPIC! It needs SOMETHING, but I have no idea what... a bit more detail perhaps? It is still far superior to the original in my opinion. Nice SNOT work, as always.

    Triumphant refit: I LOOOOOOVE IT!!!! I AM DYING FOR AN LXF HERE! I think that this is my favorite of your refits, WELL done! I simply adore this ship. So fierce, so Starfleet. GREAT job! Top notch work!

    Swallowtail refit: Nice, great shape and SNOT work, as usual. I think it needs more detail than turrets though.

    Liberty: VERY NICE! I think the color scheme is won by the original, but the design is won by your refit. Not much has changed, but a smoother engineering hull/saucer transition, way better, more Trek nacelles, and some other details give your refit the edge as far as design is concerned. WELL done! Very Happy

    Coming soon: that can only be good!

    Indomitable: The Indomitable has that effect on people... It's big, it's bad, and it's cool. I look forward to seeing what you can find to improve on it... I spent inhuman amounts of time on that ship. Razz more SNOT work maybe? Perhaps the saucer? Only time will tell.

    Overall: I am MOST impressed with how many ships you managed to refit, SO WELL in only about a month. WELL done J-red! But I want that LXF! Or else! Razz




Kojan:
    Iechonias: It's beautiful. You and Scare have both made me cry... You jerks. Razz (JK) I love you guys. And God bless you, as He has blessed me with the PCG and those people in, or around it. Great refit BTW. GREAT job keeping it true to the original, but still new and improved. BTW, you did a double on the description.



Spud:      I'm glad that in-spite of ourselves, you still think we're nice people. Razz (JK) Glad to be a part of your life.
    Talmidon refit: I love it! It's very good! I'm not so sure about the giant turbolasers, and I need to study your wing circle things... but I must admit... they look quite good! I LOVE your new nacelles! Very Happy

    Kitty Hawk refit: I like it! I like it! I'm not a major fan of the Kitty-Hawk as a ship, but you improved upon it quite a bit. (It's not a BAD ship, just a design shape that I'm eh on)




Mightyman:
    Ford refit: You insult me by showing a picture of the ugly original Ford! Razz I can't believe I built that junker. Anyways, great refit, although "delete" would have been a major improvement. You managed to make the Ford look GOOD... I am envious...and embarrassed.

    Trinity Refit: as everyone has already said on the chat, I LOVE your refit! And I know you hate it. It's great, deal with it! Razz I really DO like this ship. The design, although VERY strange, is just inexplicably aesthetically pleasing. Well done!
   
    Discovery refit: cut off the nacelle pylons and attach the nacelles much closer to the hull with sturdier, MUCH shorter pylons and it'd look pretty good. Not your best work, but not bad by any means.









Happy Phoenix Day everyone!

I might tell my story some time later, but I want to upload this ship now. Razz

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:06 pm
And to bring a bane to the party! Muheheheheh!

The Spectre Borg "Ghost" was a destroyer/scout of sorts for the Spectre forces, and where often used to chase down smaller ships that could evade a Spectre's main gun. Despite their smaller size, they still had significantly powerful shields and main guns, though not as much as a Spectre. They where a significant threat to even much larger ships, and as they typically travled in small groups, they could be as devastating as a single Spectre. Unlike the Spectres, they where equipped with a cloaking device, which they used to geat effect, and also unlike the Spectres, they had a significant weak spot, their main cannon. Hitting this could destroy a ghost upto 150% faster than beating on it's shields for an hour or more, as was found out by Johnnyred and his crew shortly after his rescue from the Andromeda during the Operation Omega incident. These ships where also known to "wail" for help, their subspace distress signal was such that it often caused vibrations in ships in nearby space, similar to how a tuning fork makes a nearby tuning fork of the same note ring as well. These vibrations where at a very high pitch, thus, as Captain Scarecrow found out when he destroyed four or more with his Behemoth, the Ghosts literally "wailed" for help, in a most disconcerting manner for the crew.  These ships are still quite popular after the end of the OO incident, though often roaming alone or in pairs. They remain ghosts haunting the galaxy in reduced number, but still a threat not to be taken lightly.

Here it is, this was my first bad-guy ship, and became quite popular in the lab even though it was pretty bad in my opinion. I threw it together pretty quickly and put it up and it shortly thereafter showed up in Scare's "Behold the Behemoth" story, and later in Johnnyreds "Fires of War" story. I looked back on it recently and decided it needed to be done right, and so I did, and here it is!

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FYI, I have Gandalf's Geonosis class, Legotrain's Dauntless class, and Jared's Nova class left to put up, after I sufficicently GIMP them out, which will not happen tonight unfortunatly.

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:13 pm
WILL

YOU

PLEASE

STOP

CALLING

THE

TRINITY

GOOD?!

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:20 pm
No really, I really like that refit! I don't think I could have done better and I did consider doing that one. Razz

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:45 pm
Everyone: Thanks! I really enjoyed making these refits. Long live the PCG Universe! Razz

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:28 pm
@Dino: I am so sorry, but I have tried 3 times to open the Iowa Refit, and my computer either went nutty or froze up each time. I wish so much I could see it in LDD form...maybe you could send the file to my email?

But anyhow, from what I see in the pics, you did an EXCELLENT job refitting this thing! I love the size increase...that alone is an improvement. I really like the way you made the hull...it has almost a SNOT appearance. The use of the smooth sloping bricks makes it look natural and not too blocky. The nacelles are SUPERB: I think those are some of the best nacelles I've seen on an orthodox ship! The nacelle pylons are good, too. They remind me of the Excelsior's pylons...and anything even similar to the Excelsior is good, IMO. Wink The detail on the saucer is well-done and nicely balanced. Color scheme needs no adjustment, and overall detail is good, too.

The only two things I could think of as far as improvements would be 1) at the anterior section of the hull, it looks a little too blocky. The first pic of the refit shows this the most...on the other pics I didn't notice it as much. And 2) The middle of your saucer is flawless IMO, but the sides...well, the use of the sloping pieces looks somewhat unnatural...but then it looks natural...it's kind of in the middle. Maybe you could try experimenting with SNOT saucers to help round out the edges? IDK.

Other than that, I love this ship! Definitely a great refit to add to the Commemorative Fleet!


@Ant: Wow, great refit of the Ghost, Ant! Looks so much better than before...more natural, more biomechanical. Love the detailed, complicated look. Definitely more like S-H's original Spectre! Well done!


Well, folks, it was a good anniversary. I enjoyed the chatbox talk and the refits. Thank the Lord for all the memories and experiences we've shared together, and may He grant us even more!

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:02 pm
I'll try emailing you the LXF Scare. I hope that fixes it.

The engineering hull almost has a SNOT appearance? That's probably because the engineering hull IS SNOT Razz

Thanks on the nacelles! I tried to show the transition between the Galaxy class nacelles, and the Sovereign class nacelles, two VERY different designs. So I technically deviated from LT's original specifications as I made the nacelles 3 studs wide (a true scale up would've had them at 4 studs wide) and I designed some very unique looking bussard collectors.

The pylons were BASED on LT's original Iowa, but I felt that plain up and down straight pylons looked a little dull at this scale, so I added some sloping to the edges. But I bet LT based that on the Excelsior, so I imagine that's where the resemblance comes from.

The coloration was essentially just copying the original, but I did admittedly change the saucer detailing considerably. Quite simply because I felt I could do it and have it look more 2,300's Starfleet than the original did.

Suggestion 1. You mean that it looks block-y/square where the deflector meets the engineering hull? Hmmm..... Maybe I can do something about that... As far as my very tired brain can tell (I was on the chat for a solid 16 hours yesterday... and then slept half the day) there isn't a way to keep the SNOT engineering hull the way it is and avoid pushing the saucer far too far out. I can round a few edges, but there would still be some square things that don't look too good, too round.

Suggestion 2: I'm not sure which section of the sloped outer edge of the saucer you're speaking of. If it's at the front and rear saucer sections, that can't be helped with that saucer shape. If you look at the York (Sov class) in my sig, I use more gradual angle plates for those sections of the saucer on my own designs, but that wasn't an option here, hence each sloping piece being a stud further alone than the last, making for a less than smooth design. But the sloped edge is actually quite accurate to modern Trek ships.
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SNOT saucers are much more accurate to older Starfleet ships.
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So it ultimately comes down to personal preference between pre-Excelsior, or post Excelsior saucers. But I must agree that the sloped pieces look jagged on the 6x6 corner plates. But to keep the design true to the original

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:40 pm
I'm not sure how many people will agree with me, but I for one love the giant turbolasers on the new Talmidon. Razz



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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:34 pm
You would Razz You are the (reforming) master of big OP guns Razz

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:45 pm
Well I was... but not anymore. Razz
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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:59 pm
I agree! Those turbolasers give it more of a personality. Razz

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sun Jul 27, 2014 3:30 pm
Those were my thoughts exactly when I built 'em. Danke! Very Happy

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:33 pm
I must admit... they do add personality... just... big guns on Starfleet ships... hmmm.... well done big guns... starfleet vessel... tricky...

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:35 pm
I thought the Narkova Talmidon was a Narkova vessel, and the original Talmidon is already quite unorthodox as it is. Razz
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Re: Commemorative Fleet

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Actually, I didn't have Narkova in mind when I built it. I was just going for a highly unconventional sort of look. Very Happy

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Mon Jul 28, 2014 4:05 pm
@Talmid: I know...those these are a great touch. Wink

@Dino: I see what you mean with both suggestions...with #1, I have experienced that myself sometimes, especially, as I recall, with an Excelsior I tried to work with. There are some things that will just have to look blocky in the end. Razz

With #2, looking at those pics definitely makes me agree that the sloping pieces are better than SNOT with post-Constitution ships. The not-perfectly-round edges can easily be ignored due to the accuracy of the slope.

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Re: Commemorative Fleet

on Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:40 pm
Aaaaaaand one of my commemortive fleet ships, long overdue, but who cares? Razz

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Comaprison between the original and the new.


Weapons Diagram.


The Dauntless, created by Legotrain587, is the oldest "original" ship, original being not made to look like a slightly varied version of a soverign/constitution/glaxaxy gneneral design, but made as an entirely new class. This was the first all new ship in the PCG, actually made before the Pheonix Command Group came about, and it has never been refitted.

The Decker Class, well beyond old with the fast paced advancement brought by the PCG, was overlooked for refits since it's inception. The aging star-ships could do little now that supercruiser and micro battleships in the form of frigates dashed through the galaxy. Tybalt Anderson, recognzing the need for the prominant ship, which had initially provided quite a bit of firepower back in it's day, to have an upgrade, set about designing the refit package for the Dauntless. In the end, they where nearly completely overhauled, with a larger saucer, larger engineering hull, more powerful naccles, and more weapons, along with a much larger hanger.

The Phasers are completly up to date and there are several more than there used to be, the torpedo bays stock photon, positron, quantum, and several specialty torpedoes used for extra oomph. The Tetryon cannons are stolen from Hirogen ships and reverse engineered, and made to fit on this ship, allowing it to quickly take down enemy shields. They are the first of their kind seen on a PCG ship, and give it quite the edge over other ships. It has fast impulse speed, though not the best agilty comapred to other ships of it's size. It still retains quite a bit of armor compared to them, and has a much faster warp speed now than it used to.  Instead of only one command tower, it now has a two extra on the underside, along with updated sensors and other such equipment. It can hold a small Marine compliment now as well as a decent amount of fighters/dropships for a ship of it's size. A larger shield generator taking up most of the saucer's underside. (termed "weapons" versus "engineering", as most of the weapons are located on the saucer) The ship is not purely made for battle however, it is also equipped for science and exploration and aid, a good stout runabout ship to do less violent chores of the PCG while still fending for itself. It can also be reconfigured as a cargo, colony, or medical ship, and a few Decker classes have already been reconfigured as such. A few can be used to significantly bulk up cargo convoys, provding firepower and armor to protect the convoy while the lighter ships are used to chase down pirates or attack before they get in range.

There she is, next up, the Nova and the Geonosis.

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The Nova:
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The PCG Nova was freakily fast even in today's time, but especially when it first flew out of the dry-dock. It was one of the PCG's pocket battleships of the time, a fast attack ship built to destroy. With a top warp speed of 9.9, fifteen phaser banks, ten torpedo tubes, and a klingon cloaking device, this ship and the others of it's class where a force to be reckoned with and helped spread the PCG's young influence over a wide area. The original Nova ship was the only one to be equipped with the Klingon cloaking device, obtained by Captain Jared for the starship as a gesture of peace between the PCG and the New Klingon Empire, who has remained an ally ever since the PCG's founding. However, the ship grew old, as did those of it's class, and they where for the most part scrapped, used as training ships, or sent to quiet backwater areas to police merchant ships. The Nova itself suffered greatly during a fight with the Cor Redor, losing it's shields and taking two direct hits that blew holes straight through the rear of it's saucer. Only a miracle saved the rest of the ship and it's crew. The ship was towed back to an out of the way repair station where it sat, overlooked and pushed aside, until Tybalt Anderson came upon it. He instantly saw potential for the ship and had it towed to his engineering base to be refitted.

The ship only needed to be tweaked a little to obtain a warp speed of warp 9.999, and it ran much more efficiently now thanks to upgraded designs. It's phaser banks also recieved upgrade to more efficient systems, including targetting, cooling, and various other items. Instead of a mere two emitter per bank, they now each contained four, and where installed with the latest type 13. The ten torpedo launchers where expanded into torpedo bays, containing three tubes each with expanded magazines of photon, quantum, and other speciality torpedo types. The two holes where cleaned up and made into excellent hangers for the ship to carry anti-capital ship strike craft, or fighter to protect larger ships. They also serve well for deploying drop ships carrying special teams, not needing a large hanger space, just enough for the team, but able to get in and out quickly and stealthily. A much upgraded shielding system was installed, along with more armor added. Every area of the ship imgainable was made more better thanks to the overhaul. Two new bridges where even installed, a lower command bridge and a forward battle bridge, with the original bridge being retermed the overservation bridge, which did include a wide, tall, bubble-like canopy which made for great star-gazing and strategic observing, but which had deployable armor pannels to protect it during battle. The while the armor pannels deployed on the outside, screens deployed on the insde making it a great breifing room/situation/command and control room. When the Nova B glided out of the drydocks completed, it came out a ship once again capable to protect the PCG's borders and spread freedom, justice, and peace to the galaxy, and it was assigned to frontline combat, once again a proud and powerful ship in Nova fleet.



The Geonosis:
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The Geonosis is Gandalf's version of Dino's Sabre class ship. I actually had no idea that is was based on a ship dino had made until after I gimped it. Razz The only kind of information about the ship itself given by either was that it had four phasers (thanks dino), well that leaves me free to make it whatever I want. Razz

The Geonosis is the latest ship to come from Tybalt Anderson's restoration/refit project, making old ships ready for the more power fights of today. It has a greatly increased sub-light speed, making it an extremely fast, agile ship, with decent shielding and armor. It mainly makes lightning fast attack runs on other ships of medium size, evading their guns and delivering powerful blows. They also excell as interceptors, chasing down fleeing ships or defending against nimble pirates. They are equipped with four two-barrel plasma turrets for exceptional anti-armor purposes, along with torpedo bays and phaser banks. Also added in the weapons line are four powerful railguns mounted underneath the hull, which are exceptional at tearing through it's target ships, as they generally don't get several meters of armor or superpowerful shields like supercruisers or battleships.

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